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1 :Egg ★:2020/05/11(月) 12:43:40 ID:st9Qoi2e9.net
落語家の立川志らく(56)が11日、TBS「ひるおび!」(月〜金曜前10・25)で、検察官の定年を延長する検察庁法改正にSNS上で抗議意思を示す活動が芸能人にも広がっていることについて「私はこれがいいのか悪いのか判断つかないです」とコメントした。
新型コロナウイルス感染拡大が終息しない中での法改正自体には「パッと見は危険な感じがします。今この時期に、これを進めていいのか」と指摘。「ただ気を付けなきゃいけないのは、みんな“印象”だけで、芸能人の方なんか…これどんどん広がっていく…」と不安視。
法改正を抗議する芸能人について「すべてとは言わないですよ、ちゃんと考えている人もいるけれども」と前置きしたうえで、「コロナのことで政権はもの凄く攻撃を受けてますから、これに乗っかってみんな一気に攻撃しようという気持ちになるのは分かるんだけれども。攻撃する時は、これいけないと思うのだったら、ちゃんと法案を読んで、これどういうことなのかちゃんと理解してから乗っかって行かないと取り返しのつかないことになる」と語った。
法改正を進める政府を「ずるいなというイメージはあるんです。凄くせこいな、と。このどさくさに」と皮肉りつつも、「ただ芸能人が、みんなワーッと乗っかることにちょっと危惧している。いろんな人の話を聞いてから私は結論を出していこうと思います」と述べた。
SNS上では、女優の小泉今日子(54)、俳優の井浦新(45)、作家でタレントの室井佑月(50)、コピーライター糸井重里氏(71)、元格闘家でタレントの高田延彦(58)、俳優の浅野忠信(46)、元AKB48の女優・秋元才加(31)、歌手のきゃりーぱみゅぱみゅ(27)、音楽ユニット「水曜日のカンパネラ」のコムアイ(27)らがハッシュタグをつけてツイートした。
検察官の定年を延長する検察庁法の改正部分を含んだ国家公務員法改正案を巡っては、検察庁の独立性が安倍政権にゆがめられる危険性を指摘する声が出ている。国家公務員法改正案の実質審議は8日の衆院内閣委員会で、森雅子法相の出席を求めた立憲民主党などの野党会派と共産党が欠席したまま始まった。
5/11(月) 12:21配信 スポニチ
https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20200511-00000115-spnannex-ent
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 12:44:00 ID:HVRxMzFp0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 12:49:33 ID:YJDfXJ8/0.net
>>2
>>22
平日の昼に若い女に粘着とか死んだほうがいいぞお前
まあすでに社会的に死んでるようなもんだろうが
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 12:50:26 ID:HVRxMzFp0.net
>>29
なんだやっぱりきゃりーぱよぱよのファンだったかw
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 12:52:21 ID:FnIXGEVz0.net
>>29
きゃりーをバカにするのもいいかげんにしろ
若い女ごときと見くびるな
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:01:01 ID:YJDfXJ8/0.net
>>52
「ごとき」を付け加えたのはお前だろ
そんなニュアンス微塵もねえよ
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:06:29 ID:xgVsMZFL0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 21:06:22 ID:YJDfXJ8/0.net
>>384
>>550
知的障害今すぐ親に土下座して殺処分してもらえよ
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 16:10:24 ID:YWXc8H7q0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 12:56:35 ID:oTh82myH0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 12:59:40 ID:D1E18xUE0.net
>>2
落ち目だし、左派Verの千葉麗子みたいなポジション狙いなんかな。パヨパヨチーンに似たキャッチャーなフレーズ考えんとな
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:02:37.16 ID:ZwHAG5xj0.net
>>113
千葉麗子はネトウヨからパヨクに転じた評論家の同類だろ
きゃりーはアホの上に繊細だから周りに言われた通りのこと呟いて炎上して傷ついてツイート引っ込めただけ
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:44:21 ID:D1E18xUE0.net
>>134
アホで繊細って一番たち悪いな‥千葉麗子は右左の対立をうまく使ったセコいビジネスウーマンって感じだが
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/12(火) 06:41:37 ID:PTTTjW1f0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:57:35 ID:iLYx5Ski0.net
>>2
きゃりパヨは謝罪したからまだマシ
オアシス大久保とか城田優よりはな
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 12:50:05 ID:D1E18xUE0.net
芸能人が適当に乗っかるメリットがわからんわ。なんかメリットあんの?話題作り?
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 12:54:36 ID:Xo+6O4rZ0.net
>>34
政府が弱ってるからいけるだろうって判断したんじゃね
ツイートしてるのが反安倍しかいないのが物語ってる
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:01:51 ID:D1E18xUE0.net
>>71
>>79
ようわからんが安倍、麻生以上に財力、影響力のある左派の権力者が思い付かんわ。いるならメリットあるだろうけど
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:04:52.11 ID:mH81TNX10.net
>>130
でも安倍麻生が直接こやつらに仕事斡旋する訳ではないから、
仕事回してくれる身近な人の方に付いてるんだと思う
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:42:29 ID:D1E18xUE0.net
>>149
読売、産経などはもろに自民党系だし朝日系のテレビにガンガンでてる人位しかメリット無いように見えるけど、きゃりーぱみゅぱみゅとかって朝日の番組なんかでてたっけ?
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:50:16 ID:0H6Y1zRh0.net
>>308
毎年幕張メッセでテレ朝主催ドリームフェスティバルに出演してるよ
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 12:55:47 ID:mH81TNX10.net
>>34
芸能村の権力者にそっちの人がいるから阿っているんだろうね
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:33:31.48 ID:5jMi5omj0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:34:18.02 ID:GMqX+tBu0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 12:48:29 ID:HVRxMzFp0.net
無知な右翼が語ってたら怒り出したりするパヨがなぜかイライラしてて笑う
パヨじゃなくてきゃりーぱよぱよの信者かファンかな?
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:32:04.15 ID:Pq+hVfzb0.net
何でこんなすぐにワーッと飛び付いたの?
経緯がわからん
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:35:02.24 ID:oSHm/G62O.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:36:39 ID:W4uOzrDw0.net
>>284
ああ、業者に頼んだら、仕事雑だからスパム認定されて削除されたか
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:41:30 ID:Pmp8lF5u0.net
>>284
そんな気がしなくもない
お金が動いていないにしても、事務所の上層部でなんかあってるかも
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:55:20 ID:ZwHAG5xj0.net
>>284
韓国・文政権が「対日世論工作」強化画策 来年度予算3倍確保へ
https://www.zakzak.co.jp/soc/news/190830/for1908300005-n1.html
これとは別の項目で、米国と中国、日本、ロシアでの世論戦のための「政策公共外交予算」に、今年度の2・6倍という72億ウォン(約6億3000万円)を配分している。
米ワシントンで世論戦を仕掛ける費用が多いようだ。
韓国は以前から、「国際世論戦」に長けているといわれる。
このせいか、日本には現在でも「韓国の代弁者」のような政治家やメディア、識者が多い。
今後、韓国を持ち上げて日本を貶めたり、急に韓国批判を控えるような人物が出てくれば、注意すべきだろう。
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:35:49 ID:AzePUu+l0.net
>>271
トイレットペーパーの買い占めみたいなもんだろ
すぐ流される奴らの集まり
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 12:49:39 ID:TXoIgCF60.net
衆院予算委 共産・宮本徹
「キョンキョンや、きゃりーぱみゅぱみゅ、西郷輝彦さん、浅野忠信さん、いきものがかりの水野良樹さんなど・・・」
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:08:07.54 ID:1mf1+EoH0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:13:27 ID:Y4y9hdH+0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 15:23:52 ID:hGQOluAH0.net
>>31
いきものがかりはもうくそでしかない
ワニの件といい
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 15:26:42 ID:T7uI4njz0.net
>>31
ちゃんと「きゃりーぱみゅぱみゅ」って言えてたの?
公明党の塙さんなら・・・・
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 15:55:11 ID:oMfTP5hX0.net
>>31
共産党が黒幕だったの?
つか芸能人は共産党からお金もらってツイートしたの?
それとも電通にツイートするように言われただけなの?
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 12:53:09 ID:X578PVcF0.net
なぜこの人事にこだわるのか
そこが不自然にみえる
その背後にある核心とは何でしょうか
よく分からないし
この報道が出るまで知らなかった
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 12:54:33 ID:ZwHAG5xj0.net
>>58
こういうこと>>44
トレンドはこうやって作られる
画像、100万ツイートの中身
https://twitter.com/sin007777/status/1259390143258976256
黒川氏の経歴を調べてみて
中韓が憤死しそうな凄い経歴の持ち主で、この騒ぎに中共が関わってるのが分かります
自治体ごとにバラで対処しなきゃならないのは当面明らかだし、アビガン流通を遅らせるような動きする人は敵と見なすしかありません
うわーすごいw
黒川氏続投でいかに中韓が困るか、よく分かりますね(^_^;)
(deleted an unsolicited ad)
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 12:56:47 ID:+Egh3TMq0.net
>>58
「おまえは逮捕されたくないから必死なんだろ」と安倍に向かって言いたい
ところだけど、流石に本人の気持ちを決めつけるわけにはいかないから誰も
言えない
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:20:59 ID:/pH4nASj0.net
>>58
もう人事は終わってる
今回の改正はこの人事には及ばない先の話
もう、どうでもいいから他の重要な対応に時間を国会は使ってくれ
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:25:23 ID:kfMTe3zu0.net
>>231
安倍が検察の人事について説明すればおわる
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:00:27 ID:/pH4nASj0.net
>>248
説明したよね。解釈変更してやったと
まぁ、強引だけど
必要だからと言われたら、「本当はうらがあるんだろ」といくらいっても
水掛け論で誰も正しいか、正しくないかわからないから時間の無駄
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:50:03 .net
>>58
ほんそれ
なんでパヨクはこの人事にウソ画像作ってまで拘るのか
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 12:48:18 ID:Wzy2LnOe0.net
なんで定年が伸びると検察庁の独立性が歪められるの?
単に国家公務員の定年が伸びるだけじゃん
そもそもこの法案っていつから論議が進んでて立案されたのはいつなの?
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:25:58 ID:G1V/FZOA0.net
>>19
そもそも単に伸びる国家公務員なんてなくて、役職剥奪されて伸びる
アベ法は、アベに気に入られると役職そのままで伸びる
そこがアベに生涯忠誠尽くす検事が増えると危惧されている
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:07:41 ID:gEJ2vNWW0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 15:41:57 ID:ZxdnBLPP0.net
>>19
その認識で合ってるよ公務員の定年延長に合わせる改正
悪夢の民主党野田の時に出てた話らしい
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 16:16:36 ID:SCMOv6Xk0.net
>>518
地獄の安倍政権が悪夢を現実にするんだな
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:39:57 ID:0KjDGKwq0.net
>>11
これを拡散してやりたいね。ただ闇雲に改正案反対を唱えるだけの人に聞かせてやりたいね。
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 15:27:42 ID:P04luX6B0.net
>>296
じゃそういえばいいじゃん
施行は2年後です
2022年から適用します
2020年の人事に反映しません
これ政権側いわないのなんで?
説明責任は政府にあるんだが?
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 15:41:18 ID:98G5EuyY0.net
>>503
条文に書いてあることを読まない自慢カッコイイ
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 15:47:40 ID:T7uI4njz0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 19:15:08 ID:gTLw0mqE0.net
>>503
法案に書いてあるのに読まないのか?
馬鹿の極みだな。
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 12:50:26 ID:kfMTe3zu0.net
これでわかるだろ
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 12:51:52 ID:fbh0ayQi0.net
>>37
それが間違ってるって言われてるやつなのに、良く出せるな
尊敬するわ
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:17:10 ID:/pH4nASj0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:48:17 ID:93wPszcx0.net
>>37
わかるのは検察も裁判所も区別できないアホが
この画像を好んで使ってることくらい
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:51:10 ID:ZwHAG5xj0.net
>>37
それ、フェイクニュースで完全にアウトな奴やな
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:46:07 ID:ZkNAbHxf0.net
それに芸能人なんか今安倍政権支持するわけないしな
被害だけ甚大で補償はろくにないんだから
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:48:10 ID:FwSmg9jd0.net
>>436
今回の件で余計に芸能界嫌いになった人は多いだろうよ
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:49:48 ID:ZkNAbHxf0.net
>>439
それもそいつの自由だろ
右も左も思想に関係なく芸能人が何か言うと
好きだったのにーとかいう奴って元々ファンでもなんでもないからなw
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:49:33 ID:yrao2rLJ0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:50:24 ID:ZkNAbHxf0.net
>>443
それが?政治家は金持ちしかなれないってこと言いたいの?
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 12:57:45 ID:5C+NEuPY0.net
>>8
まだわからん段階でわからんということの何がいかんのだ?
何となくで結論出す輩が多すぎなんだよ。
実に誠実な態度だと思うぞ。
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:13:54 ID:tAB5oqEP0.net
>>97
で、もたもたしているうちに手遅れになると。
だいたいさ、国民がちゃんと理解してもいないのに
法改正するのはどうなのさ?
ちゃんと説明する責任が政府にはあるんでないの?
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:31:04.97 ID:4HQW+ubd0.net
>>189
そんなもんいっぱいあるだろ
日頃から抗議してろよw
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:17:41 ID:YJDfXJ8/0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:39:05 ID:adLEHQZl0.net
>>218
司会はジェネラリストでありオーガナイザーでいいんだよ
専門的判断は専門家に振る
疑問をぶつけ、明らかにおかしなことについては客観的立場からに懸念を示す
それが奴らの仕事
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:43:57 ID:vQvNEi/70.net
>>294
そうですね。
立川志らくさんは好きじゃないけどこれには賛成する。
でもどこが黒幕?
大損してる所といったら広告関係?
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:08:41 ID:YJDfXJ8/0.net
>>294
オピニオンもねえなら置物だしなによりどうやって疑問ぶつけるんだよ
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 18:39:33 ID:bPXEa+BC0.net
>>395
司会者云々以前に
分別ある大人として人の意見や物事を理解し、客観的な判断を下すことができれば
オピニオン位あるだろうし、意見も言えるんじゃないの?
シラク氏のことはよく知らないし、この番組も観てないが、
シラク氏が彼なりの意見を言ったことでこのスレが立ったんじゃないのかな
ということで>>1に戻るんだよ
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:09:59.29 ID:NCuG54hX0.net
〉法改正を進める政府を「ずるいなというイメージはあるんです。凄くせこいな、と。
いやこの流れに乗らず冷静装って、そういうイメージはあるとしっかり政権批判はするお前の立ち位置がずるいw
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:11:05.35 ID:HVRxMzFp0.net
>>169
そんな志らくを同胞がバカにされたと思い込んで必死に批判してるバカ
それがパヨw
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:12:01 ID:qrIsQ8lr0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:13:05 ID:CkK1dPXy0.net
>>169
志らく「スパム乗っかりとか愚か。批判はこうやるんだよお!」(ドヤァ
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:18:19 ID:W4uOzrDw0.net
>>212
こんな地味な法案に500万も集まる分けねえし
スパムなの直ぐ分かりそうなものなのにw
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:20:00 ID:rusXK22M0.net
>>220
ほんとだよ
事実なら投票率85%の国になるわ
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:24:43 ID:ZwHAG5xj0.net
>>220
直後にNHKに「300万の抗議」と報じられてすぐ削除
NHKに報じられたという事実だけが残って立憲とパヨクが勝利宣言
あとは報道しない自由を行使して削除の件を無かったことにする
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:27:50 ID:5L0CKEEY0.net
>>245
いつものことだけど
そこで勝ったと思うのが万年野党の駄目なところなんだよ
議論が深まったらあれあんまり問題ないじゃんって
いつものように終わる
ちゃんと仕留め切れるまでのシナリオ用意してからやれよと
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:19:52 ID:/rPk6f1Z0.net
黒川の定年延長と今回の法案の問題点はそれぞれ別にあり、これをゴッチャに論じてる人が多い、と言う印象。問題の根っこ部分で似ているところはあるけど。
加えて、この件だけ急速に問題視してる人が増えてるのかが気になる。
誰か裏で糸引いてんの?
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:23:11 ID:INTKJcN00.net
>>226
誰かが号令かけてなければ、こんな風にはならないでしょうよ
きゃりーぱみゅぱみゅが貼ったイラストを作った所が一番怪しいかな?
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:25:40 ID:ZwHAG5xj0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:25:44 ID:5L0CKEEY0.net
>>237
横
あの色のチョイスわかりやすいよね
そして法案がどっちに転んでも数的に影響が無いんだからN国とおなじように無視しておけばいいのに
賛否を明らかにしてない維新をわざわざ与党側に組み入れてるのがポイント
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:55:53 ID:A+ZLtARr0.net
>>65
今の流れならそれが最優先
これは秋の臨時でもいいわけで
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:27:32 ID:QMgoZiyM0.net
>>1
何がどさくさだ
只の定年延長しかも調整
寧ろさっさと通さなきゃ他に皺寄せが起こる
いつもいつも捏造イチャモンつけてネガキャンしてるだけだろが
>>359
で、ウイルスの第2波が来たら?災害来たら?
北チョンが核ミサイル打ったら?
未来永劫ずっと先送りしなきゃならんのか?
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:31:21 ID:3IiX+Dwq0.net
>>410
死んでいいぞ売国奴
ドナー登録忘れずにな
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:48:23 ID:QMgoZiyM0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 15:09:54 ID:YJDfXJ8/0.net
>>440
知的障害はレスつけんなって言ったよな?
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 15:18:55 ID:7he9rGhK0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 12:51:13 ID:ZwHAG5xj0.net
>>1
【須田慎一郎】朝日は検察人事への介入をやめろ!第二弾
2020年2月1日
「安倍が私欲ために黒川を検事総長にしようとしている」と非難の理由は、『朝日新聞が私欲のために林検事長を検事総長にしようとしている』ため
https://www.ゆーちゅーぶ.com/watch?v=eqfXZ5nzivQ&feature=youtu.be
YouTubeさんから
このままいくとまた火の無いところに煙を立てるということがどうも行われそうだと
では誰が一体煙を立てるのかというと、どうもそれが朝日新聞になりそうだ、と
立てそうだ、ではなくもう立ててます
これを知って欲しい
#拡散希望
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 12:53:19 ID:mqr7mTUT0.net
>>44
林検事長に朝日は
カルロス・ゴーンの時にお世話になってるからね
恐ろしいわ朝日
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:49:40 ID:ZwHAG5xj0.net
>>334
朝日新聞が自分たちの林を検事総長にするため>>44
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 12:52:23 ID:ZwHAG5xj0.net
>>1
辛坊
ツイッターは世論誘導に使える、
一部の人々はほくそ笑んでいるだろう。
私は検察改革は急務だと思うが、ツイッターで話題になっている法案は
2年先施行で渦中の検事は目下のところ対象にならず、
単に他の公務員の定年に検事の定年を揃えるためのものだ。
ツイートした何人がこれを認識しているか?
一部勢力は法案自体の問題が指摘出来ないので、
「ツイッターで騒動になっている」
事をニュースにして、
あたかも法案そのものが何か重大な問題を含んでいるかのように世論を誘導する。
この手法は危険だ。
メディア論の研究対象だろう。
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 12:56:21 ID:ioD4SYcD0.net
>>54
そもそも黒川の延長自体が国公法の無理な拡張解釈だし口頭決裁というインチキなんだから問題視されて当然だろう
辛坊は本当にアホだな
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:16:01 ID:jGCUMBX+0.net
>>54
正論です。
>>83
拡張解釈とは別問題の話。論点を分けて考えられない時点で、穴があったら入った方が良いですよ。おバカさんw
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 12:53:55 ID:7he9rGhK0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:02:52.91 ID:AQj5MgJp0.net
大久保バヨ子さん、どーすんのこれwwwwwwwwwwwww
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:04:57.87 ID:Xo+6O4rZ0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:14:25 ID:ptVlft8U0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:03:14.72 ID:ZwHAG5xj0.net
>>133
ネトウヨはやらせた加害者でなく被害者の方を叩くからパヨクと同列扱いなんやで
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:22:14 ID:N5bOqVH60.net
>>139
過去のことを一々言うのは野暮だが、今回のキャリーは被害者ではなく共犯者だろw
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:58:25 ID:IIw9JAV60.net
>>404
ペニオクの広告塔どもが被害者だったのかと言うと違うわな
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:06:32.55 ID:W4uOzrDw0.net
事実1 公務員の定年延長法案だった
事実2 深夜の大量投稿はスパム認定されて削除された
事実3 なぜか大きく報道された
事実4 釣られた芸能人とかがいた
事実5 どうやら法律の施行日からして黒川関係ない
何だコレ?アホすぎて評価しづらい
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:20:32 ID:DfKpD2Cn0.net
>>156
>事実5 どうやら法律の施行日からして黒川関係ない
関係ある
実際に改正案を読んでない連中が騙されている
「国家公務員法等の一部を改正する法律案要綱」
第十一附則・一 より抜粋
>この法律は、令和四年四月一日から施行するものとすること。
>ただし、二及び四は公布の日から施行することとするほか、
>必要な施行期日を定めるものとすること。
つまり、黒川の定年延長は施行日ではなく公布日から有効
2月7日に63歳で定年退職するはずだった黒川を8月7日まで勤務延長とする
閣議決定が1月31日に行なわれた(これ自体、脱法行為)
明らかに公布日以降まで強引に引き延ばすもの
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:26:55 ID:54JGLCw20.net
>>229
まだこのデマ流してる…
二と四のよみちがえね
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:11:29.63 ID:OTZYN1BX0.net
コロナ自粛中だからといって
政治機能を止める方がおかしいだろ
それこそパニックじゃねーか
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:13:24 ID:5SCLnssq0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:14:39 ID:rusXK22M0.net
>>187
全日空の領収書だって
パヨクのいいがかりと判明したのに
まだ傷口広げたいか?
ん?
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:16:21 ID:tAB5oqEP0.net
>>194
そうやって堂々と嘘つけば
騙されると思うなよネトウヨが
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:21:25 ID:famRJtdg0.net
これだけ拒否反応はあるんだから政府は説明する必要はある
取り敢えずなぜ黒川を6ヶ月延長したのかからやね
火事場泥棒と言われるのも不本意だろ
あーカエルの面にしょんべんかもなぁ
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:24:19 ID:RHYW0iMe0.net
>>233 暇な芸能村だけじゃね?有権者は今、コロナで余裕ないでしょ。
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:27:42 ID:famRJtdg0.net
>>242
だからどさくさ紛れの火事場泥棒言われてるんやん
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:34:28.08 ID:RHYW0iMe0.net
>>261 芸能村ってその癖、真っ先に国に援助求めたりするからな。こんな奴らに味方するだけ無駄だよ。お前もコロナに集中しようぜ。(´∀`)
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:34:54.24 ID:B9Z+Z5aO0.net
>>1
検察庁改定法案を賛成してる奴だってちゃんと理解してないだろ
なんで きゃりーぱみゅぱみゅみたいに安倍に
批判的なこと言ったタレントだけが責められないといけないのか
理解できないわ
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:40:20 ID:Pmp8lF5u0.net
>>283
大半の人は賛成も反対もしてないよ
こんな法案があることさえ知らない。
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:46:32 ID:ixIRmdY+0.net
>>300
正直超地味だもんな
あー定年延長すんのね
高齢化だし年金も遅くなるしな
くらいでしかないわ
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:10:14 ID:fQr/nWfY0.net
>>327
実際調べた範囲、そもそも任命も内閣だから内閣が延長したって変わらんし、
元々人事院の勧告があっての定年延長だからな
内閣が必要と認めたらの文言がなければ炎上はなかった気がするけども、そもそも内閣が任命する以上仕方なかった気もする
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:51:01 ID:MgP68c5B0.net
瑞穂の内縁の旦那が発信源の一つらしいが
パヨパヨがこれだけ芸能村を動かせるって怖いな
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:53:07 ID:zJ8sR+CV0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:54:43 ID:MgP68c5B0.net
>>352
その類の人間が要所要所に潜り込んでる気がするわ
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:06:58 ID:UE03i3Ce0.net
>>1
名前出てる人と賢いのがいないのが致命的
中卒やら脳筋やら左翼しかいないw
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:58:16 ID:B9Z+Z5aO0.net
>>387
とは言うものの
検察庁法改正に肯定的なのが猫組長だけとはお粗末だな
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 15:01:47.75 ID:sW9fIckJ0.net
>>458
定年延長は必然だし自分たちに直接的な影響もないから積極的に賛成も反対もないというのが本当のところだと思う
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 15:12:47 ID:9euyfouR0.net
印象で乗ってもいいだろ。
ネトウヨもパヨクもそんなのいくらでもいる。
誰もが知識を充分仕入れて考える事なんてできない。
そうした方がいい、って理想はあるが、偏りのない情報を仕入れるのなんて難しい。
偉そうにきゃりーに文句言ってた奴等も、偏りのない正しい情報を仕入れてる自信あるのか?
自分の好きな政治評論家に「そうだそうだ!」って言ってるだけの連中、アホほどいるではないか。
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 15:18:31 ID:IIw9JAV60.net
>>478
影響力があってそれを商売道具にしてる以上それで通るわけがない
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 15:28:38 ID:9euyfouR0.net
>>489
それなら、「影響されるな」と人々に言うべき。
影響力あって政治語る奴はきゃりーだけじゃない。
よくわからん政治評論家や小説家、芸人、いくらでもいる。
それら全員が慎重に発言してるか?
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 15:37:51 ID:RwAuINmi0.net
>>506
それを発信するにも影響力が必要なんじゃん
だから影響力を持つやつがまずそういう事を弁えとけって話でしかない
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 15:42:12 ID:9euyfouR0.net
>>512
君は既に「影響力ある奴はわきまえろ」と発信してるじゃん。
500 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 15:25:14 ID:de/hFRpR0.net
例の図を作った人も削除して逃げてる
ttps://i.imgur.com/MRRg11Z.jpg
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 15:39:33 ID:yAbzRHT50.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 15:46:01 ID:mH81TNX10.net
>>500
「間違えた」「デマだった」とは言わず「誤解を生んだ」「認識不足」と言うあたり政治家や企業やメディアの謝罪風と何ら変わらない
ちゃんと理解して批判や疑問をぶつけてる人やちゃんと理解しようとしてる人の邪魔でしかない
まあ形だけでも謝っただけましか
公布と施行についての画像のほうは誰が作ったか知らないが謝罪訂正した様子ないもんな
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 12:58:35 ID:nQ77BFlM0.net
>>93
石田純一は早く体なおして、また馬鹿なこと言って叩かせろ
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:28:29 ID:9ax0NiGt0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:00:02 ID:zB/dOrGF0.net
何が志らくが正論だよ
馬鹿じゃねえの
種明かしされた後ならその辺のガキでも言えることを言ってるだけに過ぎない
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:00:47 ID:HVRxMzFp0.net
>>118
種明かしされた後なのに間違ってるかのように叩いてるパヨがいますけどw
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:01:41 ID:Psnu3cmc0.net
今売れてる芸能人は、金に困ってないから、乗っからないと思う
乗っかるのは、旬が過ぎた芸能人が多数
事実、金に困ってない松本とかが抗議してない
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:04:17.57 ID:e+1tTCS50.net
>>129
安倍と会食する男がこっちには来ないしな
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:05:50.68 ID:jkVjP/gk0.net
今の時代この業界いて世間の空気読むと言うのは並大抵のことじゃないぞ
メディア連中が全力で国民の方とは違うどっかを向いているし
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:07:45.58 ID:CkK1dPXy0.net
>>153
だからこそ志らくは乗っかると思ったんだがなぁw
まさかスルーしてお仲間相手にこんなドヤってくるとは俺は読めんかったよwww面白すぎるわ
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:07:25.08 ID:mH81TNX10.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 15:50:09 ID:vbsvin6d0.net
内容見ればわかるとは思いますが私は>>159以前の人とは別人です
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:08:42.17 ID:0IdWqTw50.net
173 :
立川志らくの妻は検索しましたよ。:2020/05/11(月) 13:10:59.19 ID:7TXR+pXT0.net
182 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:13:06 ID:W4uOzrDw0.net
事実1 公務員の定年延長法案だった
事実2 深夜の大量投稿はスパム認定されて削除された
事実3 なぜか大きく報道された
事実4 釣られた芸能人とかがいた
事実5 どうやら法律の施行日からして黒川関係ない
事実6 国会でも取り上げられた
俺は恥ずかしくて・・・
日本始まったな
何だコレ?アホすぎて評価しづらい
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:15:42 ID:ptVlft8U0.net
>>182
事実7 小泉今日子やきゃりーがパヨの仲間になった
日本始まらずに終わるわ
225 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:19:28 ID:5L0CKEEY0.net
コロナの最中に法案に直接関係ない黒川黒川ってやったら
また野党批判されるだろ
だから黒川やるの大事ですよってイメージを作ろうとしたんでしょ
なので一応目的は達したんだろうけど
逆に与党にプラスになってしまういつもの野党のお粗末さだよ
そのイメージづくりももっとマイルドにしとけばいいのに
共産党脳が作るから言葉がどれも一般人から乖離しちゃってて
笑ける
236 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:23:05 ID:5L0CKEEY0.net
>>225
自己レス
この問題に注目が集まるようにしたかと言うと
野党で出したコロナの家賃法案成立することもなく
自民案(法改正なし)で終わるから
244 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:24:42 ID:stoaeQlv0.net
志らくも、いまこの法案をすすめるのには、否定的っぽいな
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:26:25 ID:de/hFRpR0.net
>>244
ぱよくに攻撃されないように一応懸念を示してるだけでしょ
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:27:29 ID:d/EWHca00.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:29:11 ID:W4uOzrDw0.net
>>259
何者かがTwitter社に対してスパムで鯖攻撃していた事実だけで別に内容はゴミだから論じる意味ねえだろう
ここでのコピペ投下と同じようなものだよ
275 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:32:48.88 ID:MBPZebDj0.net
281 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:34:32.29 ID:vE0Hrs8/0.net
323 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:44:48 ID:wCfXd96NO.net
377 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:03:46 ID:Gvnj+dcL0.net
>>323
まあ勉強しろよとは思うけど、今まで世間的にもあまり興味なかった事だから、急には無理だったんだろ
むしろそんな状況でこれだけ数が増えたのが不自然
334 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:48:23 ID:ixIRmdY+0.net
検察官も国家公務員に合わせて定年延長します
ってだけの法改正のどこから独裁の匂いや軍靴の足音発見すんだよw
347 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:51:28 ID:W4uOzrDw0.net
>>334
多くの人がそう思っているのだから間違い無いと思ったのかも
まあスパムなのだけど
内容はともかく客観的にみてTwitter社への鯖攻撃
356 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 13:55:13 ID:8dhl6nIt0.net
蓮舫が正しいか、間違えているかは意味がない。
蓮舫は政府与党に反対するだけだから、
政府が正しければ蓮舫が間違えになり、
政府が間違えなら蓮舫が正しいことになる。
370 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:01:38 ID:Gvnj+dcL0.net
378 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:03:52 ID:FwSmg9jd0.net
>>365
完全に理解せず乗っかったならダメージ受ける可能性あるぞって話なのに批判するなとかガイジだろお前
388 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:07:07 ID:1vjEXskQ0.net
>>378
批判するなとは一言も言ってない
乗っかるのも自由だし批判するのも自由
379 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:04:03 ID:JAzzmP8J0.net
マジレス
よくわからんから乗っからないってのは一見正論だが、必ずしもそうじゃない
例えば裁判官罷免については、名前なんて知らなくても全部バツをつけるのが公益に繋がる
これは制度の瑕疵をフォローするための次善の策だけどね
391 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:07:45 ID:Gvnj+dcL0.net
>>379
そこに名誉棄損な内容を含める必要は無いだろ
380 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:04:42 ID:QVv7cr9c0.net
>>8
調べてなんの問題もないのは分かっているけど、芸能村のルール破ったら大変なことになるから濁しているかもよ。
後は工作があった時のセーフティネットで何人かは助ける人に選ばれたんだろ。
396 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:09:03 ID:YJDfXJ8/0.net
>>380
知的障害と会話する気ないからレスつけないでくれ
406 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:22:51 ID:MSUFrtbM0.net
志らくってこんなバランスのとれたコメントが出来るのか
409 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:24:39 ID:amiw6w4j0.net
>>406
志らくは加計問題の時
国会中継で加戸前知事の答弁観て理解した言ってた人だよ
で加戸さんをマスコミが全く流さないのを見て
何が悪かなんとなく悟ってるw
441 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:48:25 ID:Dpbki3Ni0.net
>>438
まったくわからん
施行日来ても、その時安倍は総理じゃねーのにな
599 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 19:09:21 ID:gTLw0mqE0.net
>>441
議員内閣制だから自民党が続く限り首相でも構わない。
政権与党内の任期のの件だけで、日本で二つの政党でしかそんさしない代表選挙システムがある民主的な党だからな。
447 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:49:59 ID:BAg06i0Z0.net
今回リツイートした芸能人はウーマン ラサール系として
今後の活動に影響が出るであろう
467 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 15:02:41.86 ID:jScvEBKI0.net
>>447
ラブサイケデリコのギターやってるNAOKIも偏っていてあのデマ相関図を鵜呑みしたりして終わってると思った
452 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:51:17.32 ID:6aIxZhYr0.net
薄汚いパヨ系芸能人があぶり出せて良かったよ
あとこいつらの国籍を問わなければね
日本国民の財産である電波を使って仕事してる以上反政府活動するなら国籍開示は最低限必要
他国の工作員の可能性が有るからね
特にこのコロナのどさくさに紛れて国民を煽動する動きには最大限の注意をしないとね
465 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 15:00:39.77 ID:FmBoJgXr0.net
>>452
おっしゃる通りで名簿化して公安にマークしてほしいよね
472 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 15:07:58 ID:I7qy1VCC0.net
ずるいと感じるとか馬鹿の極み
何がずるいんだよ
お前も法案読んでないだろ
そもそも膨大な資料をきちんと読んで理解してる日本人がごくごく少数だろうに
509 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 15:30:12.74 ID:03t5Mep80.net
>>472
膨大って…
この件に関するのは改正案の国家公務員法の81条の7と検察庁法の22条だから大したボリュームじゃないよ
477 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 15:12:45 ID:GC5GQM+80.net
>>475
調べてみてどうダメだと分かったか説明してくれ
483 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 15:14:44 ID:kwDI8fA/0.net
>>477
自分で調べてみてくれ。賢い君なら簡単にわかると思うぞ。
495 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 15:21:26 ID:mEs+C73S0.net
501 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 15:25:19 ID:MNYgPSel0.net
508 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 15:29:54 ID:a/oi2HiU0.net
法案の中身自体は別になんてことない
高齢社会の日本で定年を引き上げるのは予想されてたことだし、現に大半の公務員は引き上げる
問題は、黒川氏を従属させてる現政権が、今後も検察をコントロールし続けられるのかどうか、だ
これは野党・メディアがずっと監視し続けないとダメ
511 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 15:34:11.31 ID:pNeVJjMw0.net
>>508
そこの議論だってみんなわかってないよ
国民が選んだ代表が試験に通っただけの官僚をコントロールするとがそもそも悪いことなのか
むしろこの30年官僚主導から政治主導へと改革してきたのではないのか
548 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 16:08:09 ID:d/6sa7NH0.net
583 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 18:06:07 ID:CkK1dPXy0.net
>>548
こんな改正法があろうがなかろうが法律上、黒川はなれるってーの
566 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 16:45:57 ID:UnhWhn/b0.net
>>564
検察の人事権は内閣が持ってるんだから関係ないだろ。
571 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 16:52:12 ID:7pLDdnom0.net
579 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 17:40:38.89 ID:NQOyrfyv0.net
ツイッターというのは隠れパヨチンの洗い出しに便利なツールだな
590 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 18:30:35 ID:J7Ir2j070.net
585 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 18:25:16.79 ID:4sxU4xEs0.net
きゃりーぱよぱよ可哀想
一生ぱよぱよ呼ばれてしまうことが確定した
600 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 19:09:43 ID:YWXc8H7q0.net
628 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/12(火) 00:00:59 ID:wbrVZQ540.net
631 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/12(火) 00:06:36 ID:ltadcoSG0.net
>>628
中国ルートでしょうね、今回は。
尖閣諸島から目を逸らさせたい。
634 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/12(火) 00:16:35 ID:tyscLBg00.net
ちょっと前の異常なK国推しと同じで、何かありそうだね。
638 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/12(火) 00:42:11.28 ID:wtNzQtzL0.net
>>634
サムゲタン推し
ペニーオークション推し
これらも唐突に複数の芸能人がブログやツイッターで語りだして不自然すぎて叩かれた。
芸能人もどこかから依頼されて小遣い稼ぎついでにやってんだろうけどさ
少しは考えて発信しろよ。
635 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/12(火) 00:19:53 ID:Di3LLm7F0.net
この改正で芸能人や漫画家に具体的にどんな影響あるのかっていうのはあるよね
自粛しろっていうのに休業補償しないと生活できない文化だ芸術だ、などは自分らに関わるから理解できるけど
「おかしいと思ったからみんな立ち上がった」なんて論拠として弱すぎるよ
一文の得にもなんないことを日本の芸能人がやらないのは周知のとおり
639 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/12(火) 00:54:43 ID:o48u06P20.net
>>635
口頭決裁でいらっとくる職種なんじゃないか
口約束でいい目を見た漫画家なんてそういないだろうし
389 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:07:34 ID:dsrTPgZ10.net
上からの指示が降りてきただけだから理解してないに決まってる
394 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:08:38 ID:8gifqMko0.net
400 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:13:17 ID:amiw6w4j0.net
流石に志らくも
スパム認定が判明してるものを
肯定するわけにもいかないw
401 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:14:24 ID:wCfXd96NO.net
>>90
2月に定年迎えてるのを無理矢理延ばしてるんだが
407 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:23:06 ID:ole1vH2d0.net
安保法も共謀罪も野党のタラレバを理由に反対して
結局そのタラレバが起きたのかと
413 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:29:01 ID:NGIJbsOo0.net
高卒ばっかりの芸能人が事の次第をちゃんと理解できてるか疑わしい
418 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:33:55 ID:ooHiCaa90.net
談志の芸をちゃんと理解していないのに
「談志はね 談志はね」しかない志らく氏
421 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:36:24 ID:9t/K05zg0.net
「検察官が市民より先に逃げた」
「口頭決裁も正式な決裁」
事実無根だったり支離滅裂だったりする森雅子法相の
虚偽答弁や意味不明答弁をどう正しく理解するのか教えて欲しいなぁ
422 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:36:42 ID:KrHE5GwT0.net
424 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:38:52 ID:yrao2rLJ0.net
425 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:38:56 ID:ZkNAbHxf0.net
個人的にこいつバカだったんだwぐらいには思うけど
芸能人がその影響力を使って政治的発言すんなってほうがおかしいけどね
自分の商売への影響考えて発言しないなんてアメリカじゃむしろバカにされる
428 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:41:32.36 ID:fsIGr2kZ0.net
批判するなとは思わんけど芸能人が急に次々言い出したのが気味悪い
430 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:43:03 ID:/nr+a25L0.net
反対してる芸能人が軒並みクソ過ぎて同意出来ない
パヨク芸人ホイホイじゃん
431 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:44:17 ID:BeCZt7+f0.net
>>1
デュープ (Dupe) は、
騙されやすい人、間抜けな人を指す英語。
特に、共産主義者でも無く、共産党員でも無いのに結果的に共産党やソ連と同様の主張をしてしまい意図せず共産主義者の味方をしてしまう人たち、
そういう芸能人、アスリート、学者、政治家、文化人などのことをDupes(デュープス)と言う。
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/DUPE
433 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:45:05 ID:PA1YWJzi0.net
元andymoriの小山田が一番ダサいと思う
よくわからんけど反対派が多いから反対てw
437 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:46:45 ID:7xopPRhE0.net
で、調べた結果はどうなったの?
いつどう公表するの?
444 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:49:41 ID:SgvJ79Sb0.net
453 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:53:46 ID:9THhTUOS0.net
左翼が出した法案を自民が通す野が気にくわないんだろ
459 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:58:23 ID:/4IXnYFHO.net
ひるおびのコメンテーターだけやっていた時なら好き勝手言っただろうけど今は帯でメインやっているから考えてものいうようになったわw
461 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:58:27 ID:yrao2rLJ0.net
463 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 14:58:53 ID:rth3McUl0.net
あれ、志らくは変態TBSのMCに抜擢してもらったから
局にしっぽ振るかと思いきや、真っ当な事言っている。
464 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 15:00:34.31 ID:rdmZLdh4O.net
469 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 15:03:44 ID:rhroshHU0.net
小泉なら54でも乗っかりたいわ
室井ときゃりーは立たないし乗りたくないわ
470 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 15:04:07 ID:D+pLNpVL0.net
共産党が今回釣りあげたデュープスだけ国会で紹介して
仕事に影響でない様にマジもんの共産党員の芸能人の名前は伏せてるからね
意味もわからずに釣られた連中はバカだよ
479 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 15:13:03 ID:T7uI4njz0.net
484 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 15:15:28 ID:ovQ1yUoX0.net
志らくとホリエモンが正解
本当に理解してハッシュタグ付けてツイートしてる?
何でこのタイミング?何で半年延長した時点で反対しなかった?
487 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 15:17:52 ID:IlDfXVoU0.net
乗っかった芸能人が続々と下車してるけど
ノリでタグ付けした奴ばっかなんだろな
491 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 15:19:25 ID:tF25tcvb0.net
492 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 15:19:26 ID:57C/euGJ0.net
>>1
志らくも同類じゃん
金さえもらえりゃ何でも言う連中
497 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 15:22:52 ID:OVTgRI+d0.net
志らく、正論。
僕もリベラルですけど、この話は単純に「認識違いでした」って認めて引っ込めたほうが自分たちのためだと思いますよ。
しがみついて「でもでも」ってやればやるほど、どんどん悪いほうにしか転ばない。
政治的発言するならまず、勉強をして最低限の知識を身に着けてからにしてください。
もういい大人なんだから、自分の発言には責任を持たないと。
499 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 15:24:29 ID:wZMSimoG0.net
>>1
オマエんとこの一門にも乗っかったバカおんだろw
505 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 15:28:10 ID:nJfy86wa0.net
>>3
こいつの言うことに正当性があるとでも?豚ウヨくんw
513 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 15:38:33 ID:B9Z+Z5aO0.net
>>1
要するに芸能人の皆さんは安倍さんの言うことやることに一切文句を言うな
安倍さんに対して少しでも批判的な言動をとったとみなされると
安倍サポータによりネットで吊るし上げられますよ
ということだろ
まるで北朝鮮だな
527 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 15:50:52 ID:vbsvin6d0.net
533 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 15:52:45 ID:v+haV1ly0.net
535 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 15:54:09 ID:F0/hY5yD0.net
539 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 15:59:14 ID:cH1EmUrh0.net
弟子に嫁寝取られて興奮するようなのが常識人ぶる業界
540 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 16:00:24 ID:3vbqO2Bv0.net
志らくってこっち側だと思っていたのに裏切られた気分…
541 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 16:00:32 ID:tPv8vE+I0.net
芸能はいま仕事なくて暇だし
そうさせたのは安倍のせいだからって考えで
与党叩けるってことで乗っかっちゃった奴多いだろうな
あと○○がやってるからとか
545 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 16:06:45 ID:XkM11AG00.net
549 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 16:09:51 ID:hK9Y14OI0.net
551 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 16:11:02 ID:ThEeLhng0.net
それよりその芸能人の裏にいる奴を明示してくれよ
よく知らないのにこの問題だけ興味持って参加しました、なんてありえないんだからさ
552 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 16:11:25 ID:iiLFORv+0.net
>>1
全くその通り。発言内容には死ぬまで責任持てよ
553 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 16:12:01 ID:YWXc8H7q0.net
555 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 16:22:18 ID:e3dzjfrV0.net
ちゃんと理解しなくてもラサールと津田のいる方が腐ってるのわかる
558 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 16:30:25 ID:8Y4bl6Ns0.net
559 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 16:32:08 ID:F23J+hHU0.net
562 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 16:41:45 ID:6B02BZrx0.net
563 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 16:43:47 ID:CUnGtGhd0.net
オカルト否定派の松尾ことキッチュが陰謀論振りまいてて草
564 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 16:44:13 ID:7pLDdnom0.net
山添 拓
@pioneertaku84
法案は、単に65歳への定年引上げ=定年年齢の一律引上げではない。
役職定年=検事長など要職を離れる年齢を63歳と定め、その例外として、官邸が選んだ者は63歳以降も留まらせる。辞めさせるか留まらせるかは時の内閣が決める。
内閣の顔色を伺う検察官が出てくるだろう。
#検察庁法改正案に抗議します
午後6:13 · 2020年5月10日·Twitter for iPhone
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とにかく政権批判に繋げたい左巻きな連中
何も考えず吹いてる風に乗っかるアホ こういうのが炙り出されて判りやすい
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芸能生活掛けないとダメよ、ラサールやウーマンみたいにねw
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コイツがまともな事を言うなんて
明日でコロナ充足やな
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和田政宗議員のツイート
・徐東輝弁護士が「#検察庁法改正案に抗議します」に対し、『いったい検察庁法改正案の何に抗議しているのか』を投稿。
黒川氏定年延長がこの法律で決まる
→決まりません
黒川氏を検事総長にするための法改正である
→誤りです
政権への捜査を免れるための人事介入である
→誤り
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 18:32:35 ID:xktt6P2I0.net
これって誰がどういう意図で仕掛けたんだろう
どうみたって不自然すぎるから成功なんてしないのにな
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いつのまにか、コロナで大変なのに今法案を通すな!
に論調を変えてきてて草
いやいや、最初そんなこと言ってなかったじゃん
ごめんなさいしろや!
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Twitterの件に関しては珍しく正論かよ…と思ったら2008年に提案されて2011年から話し合いしとる案件をどさくさってどういうこっちゃ
お前も今回乗っかったバカと変わらんがな
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 19:05:15 ID:UnhWhn/b0.net
>>596
2009年に麻生が年寄りは働くしか能が無いって言って炎上したの覚えてる人が居るんじゃ?
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>>603
全員とは言わないが、理解してないと思うよ
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大日本帝国憲法が発布された時に、なんだか訳も分からずお祭り騒ぎしてた時代から
変わってないよね。基本的に。
周りが騒ぐから自分も騒ぐ。ハロウィンは半年前に終わっただろ?
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/11(月) 19:36:55 ID:WbdzPLsC0.net
今回の検察庁法改正は法的な問題が複雑で
芸能人がちゃんと法案を読んだとしても
これどういうことなのかちゃんと理解するのは無理
なので芸能人は
親安倍か反安倍に関係なく 今回 首突っ込まない方がいい
今回は出てこない方が
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>>597
まだまだ出てくるんだろうな
>>602
「国民全員PCR検査だ」
とかおもしろかったよ
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https://president.jp/articles/-/35296
前川喜平(右傾化を深く憂慮する一市民)
@brahmslover
改正法案の附則3条5〜7項を読むと、やっぱり黒川氏を68歳になるまで検事総長に据え置くことは可能だ。
2022年の2月7日までに現行国家公務員法を適用して検事総長の定年を延長してしまえばいいわけだ。
改正法施行後は、附則3条7項で読み替える6項に基づいて定年延長すればよい。
午後9:05 · 2020年5月11日·Twitter Web App
小西ひろゆき (参議院議員)
@konishihiroyuki
法務省に確認しました。前川様の仰るとおりです。
黒川氏は本年2月で63歳になっている。
検察庁法改正案の施行は22年1月から。
よって、検事総長になった黒川氏は22年2月の65歳の誕生日前に現行制度で勤務延長し、
その後に改正法で再延長すれば68歳(25年2月)まで検事総長として君臨できる
午後9:19 · 2020年5月11日·Twitter Web App
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/05/12(火) 00:03:07 ID:in87agUH0.net
まだ理解してない人へ簡単に理解できる問題点
黒川=官邸のお友達
官邸→黒川を検事総長にする為に現総長をクビに
現総長が退官拒否→黒川は2月で定年だから閣議決定だけで定年延長
現総長の任期切れまで黒川を延命させる法案をコロナ休業を狙った空き巣みたいなタイミングで審議入り
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志らくは乗っかるほうなのかと思ったから、冷静に発言してくれて良かった。
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だって乗っかった連中はみんな自分で調べもせずにパヨクが流したデマの通りの法改正がされると思って発狂しちゃったんだもん
ちゃんと自分で考える頭を持とうね
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仕事が減ったから金をもらってやってそうだな。どこの団体または会社が動いてるのかね
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