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1 :フォーエバー ★:2020/07/11(土) 09:32:56 ID:HJ4ekYdd9.net
7月11日(土)放送の「マツコ会議」(毎週土曜夜11:00-11:30、日本テレビ系)に、ソロキャンプ動画が話題のヒロシが登場する。
■ テレビ局に行くこと自体がすごく緊張する…
都内某所のキャンプ場と中継をつなぐと、ハンモックに揺られながらくつろぐヒロシの姿が。マツコデラックスは、「今どういう出方をしたら世の中が羨ましがるか分かってる。あれが幸福なんだぞ」と、ヒロシのライフスタイルを絶賛する。
さらに、昔は弱々しいようなキャラだったのに比べて、「今は山男になってる」とマツコが言うと、「自然が自分を変えた」とヒロシは明かす。
ただ、これがキャンプ場ではなく、収録スタジオだと途端に昔のヒロシに戻ってしまうらしく、テレビ局に行くこと自体がすごく緊張するのだそう。「本当にきつかったのね?テレビ出てた頃」とマツコが聞くと、「はい、きつかったです」と、素直にコメント。
■ ヒロシ流のたき火を披露する
ヒロシは、2015年に初めてキャンプ動画をYouTubeに投稿した。2019年9月には、「人と会わないため」という目的で、まったく手付かずの状態の山を購入し草刈から始め、川から水を引いたり、誰にも邪魔されない自分だけのキャンプを楽しんでいるという。
そんな話を聞いたマツコも、実はキャンプに興味があるらしく、「1人でどっかでたき火したい」と言うと、「同じマインド!」「グループだと、途中で帰ることも許されない」と、1人の時間を過ごすことが最高の贅沢だと言う。
ソロキャンプでは実際何をしているのか、ヒロシ流のたき火を披露。ライターは使わず火打ち石で着火するらしく、そこにはヒロシが考える人生観があった。
そして、ヒロシの生き方が今の若者たちに響く理由を、マツコが考察。さらに、ヒロシが芸能界を離れた本音を語る。(ザテレビジョン)
2020/07/11 08:00
https://news.nicovideo.jp/watch/nw7622951?news_ref=50_50
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フォーエバー ★:2020/07/11(土) 09:32:56 ID:HJ4ekYdd9.net
7月11日(土)放送の「マツコ会議」(毎週土曜夜11:00-11:30、日本テレビ系)に、ソロキャンプ動画が話題のヒロシが登場する。
■ テレビ局に行くこと自体がすごく緊張する…
都内某所のキャンプ場と中継をつなぐと、ハンモックに揺られながらくつろぐヒロシの姿が。マツコデラックスは、「今どういう出方をしたら世の中が羨ましがるか分かってる。あれが幸福なんだぞ」と、ヒロシのライフスタイルを絶賛する。
さらに、昔は弱々しいようなキャラだったのに比べて、「今は山男になってる」とマツコが言うと、「自然が自分を変えた」とヒロシは明かす。
ただ、これがキャンプ場ではなく、収録スタジオだと途端に昔のヒロシに戻ってしまうらしく、テレビ局に行くこと自体がすごく緊張するのだそう。「本当にきつかったのね?テレビ出てた頃」とマツコが聞くと、「はい、きつかったです」と、素直にコメント。
■ ヒロシ流のたき火を披露する
ヒロシは、2015年に初めてキャンプ動画をYouTubeに投稿した。2019年9月には、「人と会わないため」という目的で、まったく手付かずの状態の山を購入し草刈から始め、川から水を引いたり、誰にも邪魔されない自分だけのキャンプを楽しんでいるという。
そんな話を聞いたマツコも、実はキャンプに興味があるらしく、「1人でどっかでたき火したい」と言うと、「同じマインド!」「グループだと、途中で帰ることも許されない」と、1人の時間を過ごすことが最高の贅沢だと言う。
ソロキャンプでは実際何をしているのか、ヒロシ流のたき火を披露。ライターは使わず火打ち石で着火するらしく、そこにはヒロシが考える人生観があった。
そして、ヒロシの生き方が今の若者たちに響く理由を、マツコが考察。さらに、ヒロシが芸能界を離れた本音を語る。(ザテレビジョン)
2020/07/11 08:00
https://news.nicovideo.jp/watch/nw7622951?news_ref=50_50
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 10:01:00 ID:TrshMt3B0.net
>>1
全然いいと思わない
キャンプキャンプ言ってる奴がなんか嫌い
つまんねー趣味としか思わんし落伍者って感じ
何でそう思うのかはわからん
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 10:05:40.84 ID:ET9hPtQA0.net
>>45
>つまんねー趣味としか思わんし落伍者って感じ
大きなお世話だよ。
子供部屋のパソコンに向かってサイリウム振ってるお前より、ずっと楽しそうだよ。
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 10:22:27 ID:hORW2Sf50.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 11:49:06.10 ID:fwVOMei30.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 13:46:13 ID:yEo1OEqX0.net
>>45
なぜそう思うのか?
答えは「妬み嫉み僻み」
理解したかな。
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 17:53:55.19 ID:LrWj3BCS0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 20:43:13.15 ID:dulpuXVD0.net
>>45
ヒロシはソロキャンプユーチューバーのパイオニアで
いまやロンブー敦もおぎやはぎもリア充たちがこぞってYouTubeで真似しているんだよ
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 03:29:19.69 ID:uDUGg71f0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 10:22:31 ID:a6ZUbqqB0.net
ずーっとつぶやきシローの顔で脳内再現してて>>1の最後の画像見て本物の顔思い出した
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 10:27:20 ID:ChQLl/uv0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 11:34:23 ID:kHXRBLfu0.net
>>101
w w w
初老PZDBの自己紹介 w
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 10:31:39.25 ID:WNrQEay00.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 10:39:16.76 ID:3Ijcp26p0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 12:07:04.69 ID:kHXRBLfu0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 13:05:59 ID:fG6qrdn60.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 17:29:49 ID:kHXRBLfu0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 17:30:12 ID:kHXRBLfu0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 20:51:51.40 ID:kHXRBLfu0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 08:55:33 ID:RXbToPoT0.net
>>1
の写真の超低空ハンモックを見て、目から鱗が落ちた。
もっと高い位置に張るものと言う認識だった。
何かヒロシの今の生活を象徴するようだな。
高い所に位置を決めて上るも下りるもびくびくしなくても、ゆったり寛ぐならこれで十分と言う感じが。
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 09:26:53.01 ID:WPuyuDv10.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 10:26:11 ID:RXbToPoT0.net
>>394
なるほど。
座っても地面に着かないギリギリの高さ調整とか、地味に経験が必要そう。
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 18:34:12.23 ID:fHcGBHCm0.net
>>157
w w w w w w
まあ頑張れ w
とりあえず他人のことより自分のことで、な w
>>1
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 19:44:08 ID:XrL8oUFE0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 09:40:57 ID:mY6GKeBJ0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 09:45:31 ID:KvPiBKv80.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 10:11:00.49 ID:Znp0Z/Uz0.net
>>8
人の敷地とか、キャンプ禁止の場所でやってたらそりゃ通報されるよ。
キャンプするなら許可された場所でか、あるいは自分の土地でやれば文句も言われんし邪魔もされない。
ヒロシが「自分で山買ってキャンプしてる」のはそういうこと。
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 10:13:54.88 ID:/SJuIH/J0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 22:40:10 ID:uStN+Q0r0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 10:18:14 ID:EjIHLcDI0.net
>>72
自分の土地でも厳密には利水権は無くない?
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 10:13:43 ID:guY1wpGe0.net
>>8
人んちの山だったんじゃないの?そりゃ通報されるわ
火事でも起こされたら困るし
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 10:22:38 ID:33vsVT1h0.net
>>8
ソロキャンプというのが今時やで。
俺一人キャンプは、一周回って新しいか。
「俺一人!」ってスゲーよな。
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 11:24:51.42 ID:MmlzASCx0.net
いや違う。こんなもん幸福じゃない。
本当の幸せとは結婚して子供育てあげることだ。
人のために生きて人のために死ぬことだ。
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 12:01:00.50 ID:4lX39wxk0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 12:03:34.22 ID:h+iPbklf0.net
>>202
貯金と自分のことしか考えない子供部屋おじさんは死ね。
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 09:38:43.41 ID:LVZet14M0.net
>>207
あなたのお母さんが気の毒
育てた息子がこんな人間に育って
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 13:43:19.27 ID:5u2cMmw50.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 18:30:30.98 ID:fqk3hv9F0.net
>>157
こうして他人の幸せを否定するような頭の悪い人間にはなりたくないわ
自問自答なら別だけど
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 22:35:34 ID:5VbAA1ti0.net
20代の頃、テント背負って欧州やアフリカ、中東を旅しては野宿していた
キャンプは同じ場所でやれば飽きてくる。毎回違う場所だとわくわくするし、
あともう一つ宿代が浮いたことが喜びにもなる。
推測だが、今ヒロシはソロキャンプ苦痛なんじゃないかな。何でも仕事になると
心から楽しめなくなる。そこに緊張感や喜んでもらわなければならないという圧力を
自分でかけるようになるから
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 23:57:22 ID:ET9hPtQA0.net
>>332
>推測だが、今ヒロシはソロキャンプ苦痛なんじゃないかな。
ちょっと前まで、ヒロシは本当にソロキャンプしかやることがなかった。
それをyoutubeに上げるぐらいが関の山で、それを自分でも楽しいと思い込んでいた。
ソロキャンプが実は意外と楽しいということが世間に認知されたところまではヒロシも
予想していたのだが、その一方で「ソロキャンプをみんなでやる」という屈折した
遊び方がもっと楽しいことがわかってきてしまった。
もうじき、ヒロシは「キャンプは普通にみんなでやると楽しい」という原点に戻るだろう。
そういう自分にヒロシは気づき始めている。
実はヒロシ、近々結婚すると思う。
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 00:34:44.95 ID:rdpfCL600.net
>>337
いやヒロシはそのうち安宿の良さに気付くだろう
ドアを開けた瞬間、屋根がある、ベッドがある、ドアの向こうには
トイレや洗面台がある、ロビーに行けばコーヒーが飲める
テントを張らなくてよい、雨でも濡れない、なんて素晴らしい、
この夢のような空間がたった2,800円で手に入る
これが正しい順序
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 07:36:46 ID:c0j+7J960.net
>>342
正しいかどうかは別にして、その可能性もあるな。。。
とにかく、いろんなことに興味が広がっていく時期がきたのかも。
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 01:14:36 ID:Duvt4B0n0.net
>>337
歪んでるね〜性格が
お前友達いないし家族とも仲が悪いだろw
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 06:33:50 ID:WgCvRhq40.net
>>337
あんた中々面白いこと書くな
もしかしてヒロシさん?
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 14:08:02.67 ID:WeVtovAg0.net
353 名前:名無しさん@恐縮です[] 投稿日:2020/07/12(日) 01:14:36.91 ID:Duvt4B0n0 [1/2]
>>337
歪んでるね〜性格が
お前友達いないし家族とも仲が悪いだろw
354 名前:名無しさん@恐縮です[] 投稿日:2020/07/12(日) 01:17:57.90 ID:Duvt4B0n0 [2/2]
>>348
お前も人間という害虫だろ
資源食いつぶして生きるしかできなんだから
もしかて人間は虫よりも価値がある存在とか思ってるのかw
たった2レスでよくここまで分裂できるな
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 15:07:13 ID:CGp3MelGO.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 16:29:53.29 ID:BQar6UGR0.net
>>420
通常のカセットコンロでも問題無いけど
キャンプ用のバーナー使った方が
パッキングしやすいし
地面が安定してないとこでも使える
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 17:35:42.30 ID:CGp3MelGO.net
>>424
噸
火力が弱いとかではないんですな。
>>422
そんなのが幸せとはどう見ても(自分には)思えない。
…で、いいじゃないw
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 18:05:58 ID:ahjqa6vx0.net
>>434
言っちゃうと魔法瓶でカップラーメンとコーヒーは事足りる
お湯を沸かすというごっこ遊びに酔ってるだけ
山頂なんて風が強くて調理してたらホコリまみれ
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 18:24:43.06 ID:BmnxxWQk0.net
>>420
標高2000メートル以上で使うと気圧低くて空気薄いから火力弱くて難儀する
気温も低いと全然気化しなくて凍死するから注意
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 21:31:45.56 ID:CGp3MelGO.net
>>444
富士山の何合目かの店ではインスタントラーメンが700円(30年前くらいのデータw)する理由の一つですなw
登山用のバーナーみたいなやつはやはりその辺が違うんだなぁ。
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 21:49:34.97 ID:BQar6UGR0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 00:52:09 ID:wfYeR3Tl0.net
>>307
自然の中で生まれ育ったが、虫なんてほとんど害虫としか思わんよ
クモとトンボは蚊を食べてくれるから益虫だな
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 01:17:57.90 ID:Duvt4B0n0.net
>>348
お前も人間という害虫だろ
資源食いつぶして生きるしかできなんだから
もしかて人間は虫よりも価値がある存在とか思ってるのかw
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 02:45:59.49 ID:CGp3MelGO.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 06:28:33.13 ID:n2YiTaO90.net
>>348
何というか虫なんて居て当たり前って感じだから怖さのある無しの違いかも
知識もあるし何かあった時の対処法も分かってるし
虫気にしてたら生活できないもんね
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 09:57:33 ID:nHUVl1X70.net
>>35
ヒロシは年収10万だったときあるから
それに比べればユーチューバーのほうが余裕で儲かるだろうね
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 11:08:37.80 ID:pB+8S6eI0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 11:43:08.62 ID:0ifCigy70.net
>>148
開店休業状態でヒロシの事務所にしてる。マネージャーが留守番
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 12:02:39.73 ID:NQsrkWFy0.net
>>148
キャンプの仕事が忙しくなって開けていられなくなった。
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 11:31:26.73 ID:yAl5Ow3o0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 10:06:34.88 ID:0qLriXAo0.net
ナイフ一本でやれよ
いろんな便利グッズ持ち込んでキャンプは笑う
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 10:08:19.09 ID:4jHUmKLW0.net
>>58
キャンプとサバイバルを勘違いしてるだろ キャンプはレジャーだぜ
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 10:09:27.77 ID:o3q50gUA0.net
>>58
なんで?
なんでキャンプじゃなくて、サバイバルせにゃあかんの?ww
お前の見当違いの発言に笑うよww
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 10:12:08 ID:CcvGB2Wx0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 10:17:22 ID:zkXUHXdD0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 10:15:53 ID:gn4ULTjv0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 10:18:40 ID:knNALR5G0.net
>>82
年間で1桁万円くらいじゃねえの。
手放したくて仕方ない田舎の爺さんは沢山いるだろう。
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 10:19:16 ID:aRJxMwYx0.net
>>82
安い山なら100万とか200万で買えるらしいから
家基準で考えたら年間1万とか2万?
住宅と原野で違うとは思うけど。
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 18:32:28.69 ID:vmxwr5sM0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 22:24:27.35 ID:Pf4QJzML0.net
>>82
昼やってた番組で西村が500坪くらいの山の一部買ったら固定資産税380円言ってたよ
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 10:31:17.43 ID:oUlK/YYJ0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 10:34:07 ID:m4CC+D5+0.net
>>109
関東とかじゃなく地方をさがせば、
最低限の施設は備えつつ、さびれてて人いないキャンプ場はいくらでもある
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 11:05:07.85 ID:oUlK/YYJ0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 02:58:34.21 ID:O2XqvIj00.net
>>109
平日に行けば空いているようだけど近年のキャンプブームで阿呆どもが荒らしたからソロキャンプを楽しめる場所が減っているのが悲しい現実
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 10:36:48.32 ID:BfZUf3Zq0.net
ソロキャンプよりソロ車中泊がしたい
でも軽キャンピングカーでも結構いい値段するんだよな
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 10:39:50.09 ID:pDu1Zrrj0.net
>>119
よくコンビニの駐車場の車内で寝てる人いるけどあれも車中泊になるの?
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 10:44:34 ID:pUdpuW7R0.net
>>124
貨物の運ちゃんとか毎日車中泊だな
車中泊って道の駅とかならまだしも駐車場とか路上で勝手にやると警察呼ばれるっていう
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 10:46:21 ID:MpnnLZxt0.net
>>119
夏は暑くて冬は寒くない?エンジンかけっぱなしってわけにもいかないだろうし
観光地の駐車場とか車中泊禁止のところが多いから、結局オートキャンプ場に行くしかなくなる
つまりそれほど自由気ままな旅はできない。道の駅もあんまり風情はないからな
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 10:43:47 ID:atpbwEiH0.net
虫がいなかったらキャンプ好きだけど、虫がいるからキャンプやりたくないな
マダニとかヒルとか蚊とか蜂とか、とくなマダニとかヒルに噛まれたら1発でキャンプ嫌いになる
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 10:47:58 ID:30In0Nf40.net
>>128
ヘビーキャンパーでも夏はオフシーズンって人も結構居るよ
そういう人は秋冬春と虫のいない時を選んで行ってる。
冬はテントの中で小型の薪ストーブを炊いたりしてさ。
クソ寒い冬にソロキャンプやって何が楽しいのかって思われるけど
これが楽しいんだまた
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 06:28:48.83 ID:WgCvRhq40.net
>>137
そうそう!本当それ
10月くらいになって気温下がると、びっくりするくらい山から虫がいなくなるよな
怖いくらい
虫って遺伝子に本当忠実
ロボットみたい
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 11:27:03.59 ID:FQkj+eoa0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 11:24:03.74 ID:JrN5RQDF0.net
ソロキャンプ好きな人ってホームレスとある部分ではメンタル同じっぽい。
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 11:40:12.14 ID:MpnnLZxt0.net
>>156
あー、そう言われればそうかも。究極のソロキャンパーだよな、あの人たち
土日だけじゃなくて一年中だし
でもホームレスの人は都会派だけどソロキャンパーは自然派か
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 11:43:17.90 ID:kHXRBLfu0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 11:53:03.13 ID:tA+WNXec0.net
>>191
美人な女子ソロキャンプさん達の動画面白いから見てるけど凄いなぁと感心してる
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 12:03:02.89 ID:3DoHW0050.net
>>198
きっと男性の同行者いるよね。いてくれないと心配になるわ
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 12:12:31.60 ID:kHXRBLfu0.net
>>206
w
新型コロナでソーシャルディスタンスが提唱されようと
ながらスマホはなくならない w
愚民の阿呆っぷりは死んでもなおらん w
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 12:30:32 ID:fGf5I4L60.net
>>206
静かな山の夜
男二人
何も起きないハズがなく
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 09:34:40.21 ID:+uWq8yVf0.net
マツコがキャンプ来たらクマと間違われて射殺されそう
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 20:27:52.25 ID:z9xKrJ/70.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 09:57:59.06 ID:GR8MNYEk0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 02:00:55.61 ID:oXTZvcta0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 11:56:41.17 ID:PURvgN9/0.net
ヒロシはなぜか売れてない頃にも
笑点でネタやったり徹子の部屋にたまに出たりしてた印象
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 12:01:06.37 ID:QNYVMEnL0.net
オフハウスで買ったバウルーがあるから
ヒロシみたいに肉をはさんで焼こうと思ったら
ホットサンド用の仕切りがあった
>>200
徹子の部屋には4回出たらしいね
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 12:17:49.39 ID:fXJxa2S10.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 12:09:25 ID:Y8aEYL0+0.net
>>200
野際陽子とか、ババア受けが良いタイプだと思う
雰囲気イケメンで、それほど騒がしくないからな
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 13:44:57 ID:yEo1OEqX0.net
>>29
思いっきりドヤンキーの面でガンつけて、
決して目をそらさず「殺すぞコラ」と太く大きな声でメンチを切る。
これで逃げたぞ。下をうつむいて振り返り戻っていった。
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 14:27:26.15 ID:kHXRBLfu0.net
>>253
w
おぢいちゃんって
ネットなら粋れるんだ w
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 14:51:28.56 ID:yEo1OEqX0.net
>>263
今時の世の中って、熊に遭遇するのは割とあるんだよ。
ロードバイクでちょっと山に入っていくだけでいるからね。
行動範囲が狭小で経験も乏しく物事を知らない情弱な坊やには分からないだろうけど。
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 09:55:50 ID:gJ2Fp/020.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 03:08:49.86 ID:r/+Tx49p0.net
ヒロシがオネエっぽいのは超同意するが、以前爆笑問題のラジオにゲスト出演したとき、結婚はしない、セフレが欲しい的なことを言ってたし、たぶん女子好きだと思う
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 03:17:55 ID:DtbKa+9r0.net
>>364
モテるだろうし、精力剤買ってるくらいだから普通に彼女やらセフレくらい居るだろうね。
ヒロシくらいの年齢になると今更結婚なんて面倒だもんな。
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 06:29:31 ID:n2YiTaO90.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 10:15:06 ID:fHcGBHCm0.net
>>378
w
とりあえず涙ふけよ w
前が見えないだろ?w
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 18:57:16.57 ID:3FiRvFbV0.net
>>364
だいぶ前だけどギャル系大好き人間だよ
ネット番組で堂々とAV嬢のRUMIKA大好きと公言してた
なお現在のお姿は見ない方が(笑)
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 13:51:19 ID:Yv+Qe3Jb0.net
醍醐味はガス持参で山の上でラーメン食ったり熱いコーヒー飲んだり料理して食う瞬間だろ。
だが、エサの匂いさせたり残飯流して帰るバカがいるから熊が来るんだよな。
日本人でゴミを持ち帰らない奴は
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 10:01:05 ID:t25sTRA/0.net
虫を嫌う奴が
極端に多くなったのは
家庭環境、とくに母親の影響かね
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 10:10:33.03 ID:amQjcEpc0.net
>>46
潔癖もそれ
やっぱフェミは健全じゃないな
離婚率多いわ結婚率下がるわで人口減
イスラム教徒が増えるわけだわ
農業や地方離れ都会上京も女ばっかだし
それで都会で保育所作れとか乞食みたい
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 20:03:59 ID:ztBZjpv20.net
>>46
自然の中で虫に触れる機会が無いんじゃないの
虫はすべて害虫って意識
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 11:48:01.04 ID:QWo9NlSs0.net
男は気楽でいいわね〜
女は不自由 すぐレイプされるわ
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 11:50:42.54 ID:rtxRkQai0.net
持ち山なら好きにやればいいけど、山梨女児行方不明事件はソロキャンプ風の犯罪者の仕業と信じてるので
持ち山以外でソロキャンプをやる男は正直色眼鏡で見ている
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 12:00:14.83 ID:pUdpuW7R0.net
>>195
下剤持ってきてホモキャンプやってる人達は安心していいのか
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 12:12:24.37 ID:n/XaR5rf0.net
ホラーやパニック映画見すぎてソロとか絶対に無理
想像力豊か過ぎて一人で森に居られない
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 12:14:07.27 ID:k1l2pE8J0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 12:58:08 ID:n/XaR5rf0.net
>>220
イヤイヤ
熊どころかマムシ、藪蚊、マダニも込みで想像してるから
想像力なめんな
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 12:21:30.83 ID:k1l2pE8J0.net
>>223
なるほど。
お前は幸せだから生きているのではなく、自分に生きてる価値があるというだけで生きているのだな。
不幸な話だ。
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 12:37:54.66 ID:MmlzASCx0.net
>>225
いい歳こいてチョンガーのお前に言われちゃおしまいだなw
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 20:11:41.15 ID:ikNGcoa50.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 18:33:31.11 ID:BMuO1Yjy0.net
ヒロシがキャンプのために山買ったってニューススレで、ねらーが揃って山なんか価値ないとか、実家が山持ち発表とかの資産マウント合戦になっててワロタ
学歴合戦もすぐ始めるしといい、ねらーって何時からこんなんになってしまったんやろ
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 20:46:48.81 ID:dulpuXVD0.net
>>296
俺は白人ハーフだけどというねらーのマウントには笑ってしまった
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 18:41:20.12 ID:it0h9ePD0.net
ヒロシはいい年齢の重ね方してるよな
もちろん、結婚して子供育ててってのも大事だけど、
そうはなれなかった人間でもそれなりに楽しく生きる、そんな敗残者のいい年齢の重ね方
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 20:37:29.89 ID:gBEQ2uKf0.net
>>299
ヒロシのはまさにゴールを手に入れた成功者の生き方ですよ
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 20:39:49 ID:7xe4fRER0.net
>>299
お前思考がやべえよ
結婚してないから敗残者ってw
ネットのやりすぎでメンタルやられてないか
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 20:22:37 ID:y3rkWkCU0.net
高校生の時に同級生達に人がいない所の山キャンプに4日連れてかれ
水は綺麗で大丈夫と言われ、みんなで飲んでたが帰ったら凄い下痢で大変でした
気をつけて 京都の人が来ない山
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 21:04:21.86 ID:fVGK1SIF0.net
>>310
湧き水だったか
いくらきれいでも沢の水や一度貯めた水はあたったりするぞ
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 03:17:17.59 ID:9p8fweZH0.net
>>310
どんな山でも動物がいる以上大腸菌あるし
ヒルや寄生虫やピロリ菌もいるから
煮沸しない限り飲まないほうが良い
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 08:47:51.42 ID:gHUhkeKK0.net
川から自分の土地に水引くのって勝手にやっていいの?
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 10:29:55.03 ID:450jjywL0.net
>>389
自分の土地を川が流れてる場合「河川を加工するな」って言う書類にハンコを押す必要があるんだけど、その時に水利権申請ってのをやって認可されれば使えるようになる。
ここらは不動産屋にネガな部分も含めて説明されると思う。(説明義務)
例えば、川が溢れても請求できませんよ、とか、護岸整備頼まれても市は知らんぷりかもですよ、とかw
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 11:59:39.14 ID:c0j+7J960.net
>>399
ヒロシはその問題をたぶん完全にクリアしていると思う。
敷地内に小川が流れていて、平坦な部分があって、薪になる木が十分に生えている土地で、
都心からのアクセスと地元商店からの適度な距離など、全ての条件を厳選しているはず。
もっともそんな場所はいくらでもあるし、斡旋する別荘業者も存在する。
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 16:13:00.19 ID:YrXhQZ6a0.net
山の中のコケとか生えてるような場所に一人でキャンプ
映像ではわからないけど夜中は真っ暗
そんなのが幸せとはどう見ても思えない
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 17:51:45.29 ID:nOdjCYqF0.net
キャンプでの火起こしと焚き火は最高だけど
興味ない人には全く刺さらないと思う
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 18:27:50.24 ID:kQkscmVm0.net
>>435
BBQでも火おこしってテンション上がるよな
自分もあんまり経験無い時はうちわであおがないと火が強くなるって知らなかったw
ぶっちゃけ簡易扇風機があれば火おこし最強
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 18:54:44 ID:VIX8AshD0.net
>>435
何もしたくないからソロキャン行く
火が常にあった方が何かと便利だから小さな焚き火はやることあるけど
焚き火自体には殆ど興味ないな、面倒
>>440
テントに面倒は感じないけどな
焚き火の方がよほど面倒だろw
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 10:13:18 ID:sCQLyC+K0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 10:17:24 ID:hk0zUZt30.net
>>76
あれ、本当に一人で山開いていって、平地を作って
そこでキャンプやってるのなら、ちょっとハードル高いね
よっぽど好きじゃないと出来ん
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 01:39:08 ID://WoqB+v0.net
>>84
そんな労働は楽しいけど
バレて有名人だと不法投棄とかされまくりそう(舐められて)
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 10:18:09 ID:cdrFHEhJ0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 10:23:15 ID:hk0zUZt30.net
>>86
湧き水なんかは、ろ過されるので山の下の方が綺麗なんだけど
普通の川なんかは、上の方が綺麗だね
でも、エキノコックスや寄生虫が居る可能性もあるので
出来れば煮沸した方が安全
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 10:30:37.75 ID:4EmD3ELf0.net
>>94
自転車の長距離走をしてるときなんかは
田んぼの用水路の水も大変美味しくいただけますが、なにか?
お腹も壊さないし、特に何ともないよ
まあ、万人にお勧めはしないけどw
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 10:35:11.17 ID:pUdpuW7R0.net
>>107
農薬入ってるしな
根絶出来たけど下手すりゃ日本住血吸虫症になってた可能性とか「そういう寄生虫が」すでに腹へ入ってるかも
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 10:29:07.06 ID:3X81Fv2a0.net
ソロキャンプは見てる分には面白いが
自分では一切やろうとは思わない
自宅だと天候も関係ないし水、火、電気、ベッド等全部揃ってるからw
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 19:46:10 ID:nmHQHWvB0.net
>>105
自宅内にテント張ってキャンプやればいいじゃん。
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 10:33:49 ID:z5MAkm7S0.net
ソロキャンしたいけど周りから見られてる気がして出来ない
自分の山買うしかないのかな
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 10:37:29.23 ID:m4CC+D5+0.net
>>114
自分の山を買ったとしても、それなりの頻度で手入れしないと
気持ちよくキャンプするのは無理だぞ
サバイバル訓練とは違うんだから
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 10:36:18.41 ID:3i2PR+tg0.net
楽しそうだとは思うけど、後片付けとか道具のメンテが面倒くさい
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 11:10:09.67 ID:pB+8S6eI0.net
>>118
道具すごい沢山使うよな。
帰ってきたらテント干したり結構大変。
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 10:40:16.06 ID:atpbwEiH0.net
ヒロシはアクセス数とかは大物YouTuberと比べると少ないけど「案件」と呼ばれる企業タイアップ収入がでかいんやろうな
通常1件1,000万円らしいけど、ヒロシがキャンプ道具宣伝するだけで大人気になるから1件5,000万円とかじゃないかな
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 11:20:18.34 ID:pDu1Zrrj0.net
>>125
>通常1件1,000万円
そんなわけないだろ
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 11:29:22.28 ID:izwv0jCw0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 11:38:28.68 ID:SyIm/qFj0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 11:41:55.83 ID:sz5c6G6E0.net
旅猿にゲストで出てるな
久しぶりに番組を見たら、岡村の病んでる感が凄かったな
チコちゃんと絡んでる時の半分以下のテンションで
もう、外ロケとかやりたくないのかな?
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 11:45:25 ID:lL+NNI0r0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 11:44:32.13 ID:lL+NNI0r0.net
>>4
黒い服を着たマツコが熊と間違えてしまうかって話では??
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 11:47:18.59 ID:pUdpuW7R0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 11:46:26.39 ID:GM1Vfbjl0.net
マツコがソロキャンプ動画出したかと思ってちょっと見たくなった
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 11:47:28.58 ID:JY/yRFnn0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 13:23:15 ID:m1rOgsnh0.net
このヒロシってのも悲惨だけど まあコイツはコイツで別にこれでいいけど
こんなただのオッサンが1人でキャンプやってる映像を楽しみにみてるような人間にはなりたくないね
毎日なんにもない悲しい生活送ってんだろうね
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 13:40:32 ID:AAjsukur0.net
>>247
それは焚き火だけ放送してる番組が
大好きなノルウェー人をもディスっとるな
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 13:46:04 ID:lNg+GcVZ0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 13:47:05 ID:yEo1OEqX0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 13:59:04 ID:S4qeRtoZ0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 20:56:29 ID:pWibtMjm0.net
>>261
ヒロシのようつべ1発目の動画が西村のキャンプデビューだよ
当時の西村は車をもっていなくて、ヒロシの助手席の乗っけてもらって
焚火台もヒロシのを借りて一緒にソロキャンプしてた
初回で完全にハマってしまって、レンタカーを経て自前の四駆を買った
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 14:29:56.20 ID:iHvrD0OK0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 14:43:00 ID:jThH6eA00.net
>>265
埃まみれになる肉食いたくないって言ってたぞ
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 15:08:57.92 ID:tHHhRygA0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 20:34:31.66 ID:7xe4fRER0.net
>>279
そら売れっ子芸能人だからあの見た目でもキャラとして平静を装えるんだろ
一般人であの体系だと間違いなく苛めの対象だわ
虐められないにしてもコミュニティのカースト下位
それをわかってるし経験してるからいろいろと悟ってるんでしょ
世の中の不条理を
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 18:32:29.87 ID:gWSO8lxo0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 02:43:17.39 ID:Hw5mYBI10.net
>>295
場所にもよる
人が分け入れるような低山は鹿だの猪だのが多いから
一見綺麗そうに見えても川の水なんて大腸菌だらけだよ
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 18:35:40.94 ID:BZYq2vjp0.net
>>7
熊本県民だからな、川の水は直飲みして当たり前の環境で育ってる。
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 19:18:10 ID:/1xR3eRy0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 00:01:25.33 ID:Z6AgPFjVO.net
ソロキャンパー仲間と言う矛盾なw
やっぱり人間は独りでは生きられないんだよ
ヒキニートだってネットがあるから耐えられてるだけ
343 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 00:35:34.20 ID:CGp3MelGO.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 00:52:47 ID:mg3/JCm90.net
変な信者みたいなのがついててウザイ
ふなっしーとか江頭みたい
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 01:09:20 ID:Z6AgPFjVO.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 03:11:51.75 ID:HvFSlq0K0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 03:54:09 ID:CGp3MelGO.net
>>365
「旅・時」で、ヒロシは意外と素人と絡むロケの良いスキル持ってるじゃん!…と、思った俺の目に狂いはなかった…
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 03:24:37 ID:uDUGg71f0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 06:14:47.93 ID:s5MvfXLJ0.net
>>368
ピロリ菌て大人になってからはほとんど感染することは無くて、幼児期の胃酸が弱い時期に感染することが多いみたいだよ。
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 06:38:40.39 ID:n2YiTaO90.net
ヒロシの大人気無さや協調性の無さにハラハラする時あるけど
駅前食堂見てるとコミュニケーションちゃんと取ってて実は人間好きなの??って不思議に感じる
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 11:36:56 ID:qwWAXd9+0.net
>>381
これだけ売れたのにそれでも
芸能人になりきれない芸能界に染まらない感じ
が良い方に今出ているよな
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 12:48:18.68 ID:ZP8CsXkA0.net
>>404
ソロキャンプやってると、人が忘れてた闇の怖さってのを感じさせてくれる。
水木しげるが嘆いてた妖怪を信じない心ってやつ?
例えば誰もいない暗闇でザッザッって音がすると「小豆洗いかな?」的なw
物理的に怖いのは熊や人だろけどさ。
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 13:13:13.20 ID:CGp3MelGO.net
>>405
明るい処にしか居ない人間がそう云う要素を鼻で笑っても、逆に「フッ…」って思うわw
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 13:41:14.46 ID:EtW8iQbv0.net
マツコ一人で焚火したいとか言ってるけど体力的にキャンプ無理だろう
あの体型じゃ山歩きできないだろ
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 13:53:09 ID:p0SHCEHe0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 17:08:54.39 ID:8Y7/yAS/0.net
ヒロシのほうが芸歴も年齢も先輩なのに
ヒロシは終始、後輩のような態度だったな
まー後輩のマツコの番組に呼ばれた手前
仕方ねーっちゃ仕方ねーかw
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 18:38:09 ID:bEhHam/h0.net
>>432
マツコはひたすらに 「ヒロシさん ヒロシさん」 言ってたけどね。
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 18:11:26.89 ID:xgJvM5TR0.net
温泉入って湖畔で焚き火で飲んで車中泊
これが一番楽
テントは面倒くさい
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 18:12:27.26 ID:QmDFSTfc0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 21:26:53.81 ID:CGp3MelGO.net
>>441
番組でも持ち上げてたけど、俺はどうも國武舞wは人柄が信用出来ない…
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 20:52:56.47 ID:vMGmRN1U0.net
>>196
子持ちだけど金がないと大変だよ
人生ゲームはゴールした順位と資産で勝ち負け決まるけど、実際の人生は「楽しい!」とか「幸せだなぁ」て実感した回数だと思うよ
最後孤独死したところで、それまでの人生を楽しんだ(嫌な思いをしなかった)人が勝ちなんじゃないかね
そこに嫁子供の有無はあんまり関係がない
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 21:40:37.41 ID:CGp3MelGO.net
>>472
まぁ、今の人間が遺したいのはどちらかと云えば遺伝子より模倣子だろうからねぇ…
ヒロシはこのまま行けば子供は持てなくてもそこそこの模倣子を残せそうだw
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 14:30:49.55 ID:5hiyCO/H0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 14:45:45.99 ID:63dhTh110.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 14:53:15.19 ID:2KGijjZd0.net
ひとりキャンプで食って寝るの夏帆は野グソで肛門がウンコ臭そう
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 15:06:27.42 ID:EqJlJ16w0.net
いいねー。
主婦だと、平日仕事休みの日は子供も旦那もいない時間が長くて
1人キャンプな状態になるので、なんとなく幸福感わかる!
手作りでパンとか鍋でご飯炊いたり、ちょっとしたことを手間かけると
山籠りの気分に浸れる。
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 15:09:42.17 ID:GE2HRhgb0.net
>>277
知らんけど放っといて破裂したら流石に動けねぇんじゃね?
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 15:14:20 ID:zjsaJORP0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 15:34:13 ID:FpelUelC0.net
マツコは基本的に人が用意したものを食うだけのお据え膳だから
楽しめないだろ
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 15:44:00 ID:C8TmS30r0.net
ソロキャンプに憧れるしいいなと思うけど不便を楽しめないし
虫も泥も汚れるのも面倒事も嫌いだから一生できないなと思う
静けさも怖いな 一人旅ですらした事ないや
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 19:39:49.36 ID:xbxiCoQR0.net
何回か友達に誘われて行ったが、何が面白いのか分からない
もう行かないよ
だって、虫が嫌だ
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 20:01:28.35 ID:ztBZjpv20.net
駅前食堂面白いよね
食事まずいとかコレ要らないとか普通に言うしw嘘っぽさがなくて好きなんだけど
最近ヒロシのオネエっぽさが気持ち悪くなってきた
電車でカメラ向けてきた男に喘ぎ声あげながら擦り寄っていったの気色悪かったし、周りもドン引きして当然
ヒロシはホモっていうより完全にオネエだよね
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 20:11:20 ID:it0h9ePD0.net
>>306
うわー、見たいなあ
BS朝日はネット配信しろよ
いつの時代なんだよほんともう
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 20:29:17 ID:Ae/XSFTv0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 20:44:00.83 ID:KhFNqUg10.net
TV番組見てると異常に周り気にしすぎなヒロシ
旅番組みてると半端ないバカ舌でツッコみたくなる
世渡りはバイきんぐ西村の圧勝だと思う
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 20:50:11.09 ID:tX95FzGE0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 21:10:32.99 ID:pUdpuW7R0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/11(土) 23:14:24.23 ID:hUHTAaBP0.net
ぶっちゃけ今のヒロシはソロキャンパーじゃねぇわ
ほんとのソロキャンパーなら自分のキャンプ風景をYouTubeに上げたりしない
視聴者に見せるためにカメラの位置や構図を考えたり編集したり逐一誰かのこと考えてるじゃん
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 00:14:26.67 ID:c0j+7J960.net
ただ単に「手際の悪い奴が面倒だった」だけなことをヒロシは気づき始めている。
気づいた理由は、自分がやってきたことを任せられる人が周囲に出現したから。
それはたぶん女性だ。
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 00:42:51 ID:BznvOB+10.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 00:45:39 ID:WRA/PTLm0.net
ろ過ね 基本水は沸かせ
綺麗に見える水も念のために沸かせ
沸かせば泥水でも飲める 火って大事
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 03:06:57.44 ID:C2FB7Jds0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 03:37:45.51 ID:Y6VNqeED0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 06:16:33.13 ID:aRHz73S10.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 08:55:19 ID:rjpcr1YB0.net
>>389
手土産もって、地元の権利者や水利組合に許可を取る。
こじれるとキャンプどころじゃなくなる。
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 11:33:47 ID:qwWAXd9+0.net
>>68
広告そのものだからな
これヒロシの奴、ヒロシ持ってた、ヒロシで見た
みたいな会話ばっか
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 12:55:28.23 ID:ZCHLbXjl0.net
絶対詰まんないよ
人気のない山奥がどれだけ恐ろしいか分かってる奴は
あれが楽しくないの知ってる
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 13:10:41.17 ID:CGp3MelGO.net
>>403
別に自分で作らなくても極端な話、コンビニであんパンと牛乳買ってけばいいって言って、ヒロシに禿同されてたw
409 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 13:24:09.43 ID:p0SHCEHe0.net
最近は嵐の大野君と絡んでたりする
ヒロシは道具の宣伝をしないし余り無駄買いをしないから初心者の参考に成るよ
笑’sのチタン製の焚火台とかメーカーでヒロシ仕様のを作ってくれたのに
自分で気に入ったのだけを使ってる
410 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 13:34:08 ID:p0SHCEHe0.net
浅野忠信、新井浩文、松本潤がタンドール窯をやってたのを思い出す
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 13:37:06 ID:5u2cMmw50.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 14:08:54.87 ID:K8ariTQO0.net
ガキの頃に空き地や森の中に秘密基地作ってテーブルとか椅子とか
その代わりになる廃材とか組み立てたりした経験があれば一人キャンプは絶対楽しい
フィールドに秘密基地作って一晩過ごしてみるのとマインドが同じだからね
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 18:00:41.39 ID:SOPacQR00.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 18:03:44 ID:fW/B+tEV0.net
あんな山奥でも地元民は見てないようで見てるから
家建てることになって資材運び込んだら町内会の集金が来そう
449 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 18:37:49 ID:218pfO6+0.net
キャンプみたいなハードさが一切ない
水どう藤村のバードウォッチング一気見はおもしろかったわ
ときどき説教臭いけど
456 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 18:48:51.71 ID:SOPacQR00.net
外人女性のヒッチハイク動画とか消しちゃったんだ?w
458 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 18:57:10.16 ID:crSZ56eX0.net
目立って売れたいけれど、一人にもなりたいって、芸能人はわがままだな
460 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 19:08:47 ID:a7aHA1B90.net
ソロきゃん女子っていうアニメが始まるから、それみたらさらにアニオタも参入してきそう
463 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 19:50:12 ID:PmCypsDn0.net
キャンプは楽しいけどソロキャンプなんか何も楽しくねえよw
こういうスレだと必ず一人自慢現れるけどさ、
それ単に一緒に行く人がいないだけw
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 20:09:59.41 ID:/lYL7zTv0.net
>>427
前提が、一人じゃ虚しい寂しい恥ずかしい
な考えな人だから絶対話が噛み合わないな
466 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 20:15:37.50 ID:6VgdKccK0.net
>>465
さえない独身者を指す言葉だったかな
すごく懐かしい感じ
フリテンくんとかでよく使われてた気がする
467 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 20:18:59 ID:m9q6glvW0.net
ヒロシの動画で一番面白いのはヒッチハイクのドイツ女だから見とけ
468 :
名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 20:19:26 ID:ikNGcoa50.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 21:06:38 ID:6npQL9Si0.net
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名無しさん@恐縮です:2020/07/12(日) 22:12:07.37 ID:PCMACxGx0.net
本人が楽しい、癒されると思う事が一番だろ
キャンプなんか面倒くさくて俺は大嫌いだけど
自分はクーラーの効いた清潔な部屋で便利に休日を過ごしたい
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